M18 Milwaukee Track Saw VS 18v Metabo Track Saw Comparison Review. Plunge Saw Showdown.

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Foreign Girls today we are looking at one of the Favorite tools of recent years a plunge Saw as you can see this is the Milwaukee Plunge saw do you want the model number I don't really need to give you the Model number do I if you Google Milwaukee plunge saw I'm sure you will Find it if you walk into a shop and say Milwaukee plunge saw they're not going To get confused about which one it is But if you've been to this channel Before you know I like to give you as Many details as possible so this is in This part of the world the M18 FPS 55 That is M18 because it is an 18 volt Tool FPS stands for fuel basically Brushless Fuel plunge saw and the 55 I'll tell you About shortly in the States this is Known as Let's take a look at some of the Features plunge lock for changing your Blade blade lock for changing your blade Onboard tool storage four guess what Changing your blade and that blade is of Course 165 millimeters or six and a half Inches it's variable speed from one Through to six or from 2500 rpm to 5600 RPM it has a scoring function An easy to move depth of cut setting With the left side here showing you the Full depth without the track and the Depth with the track

There is a fine adjustment screw for Your depth stop the plunge lock release Is of course where your thumb is and Where your finger is is a trigger it can Bevel to a maximum of 48 degrees with a Stop at 45 and with the use of this knob A stop at 22.5 degrees to attain a minus 1 degree or reverse bevel cut you use This knob Tool then dropped it's also the same Knob you use for when you want to get to 48 degrees and it has knobs front and Back for tightening your bevel angle It has a rotatable dust port and it Comes with a dust bag for that dust port And the base looks like this More on that later so that's a quick Look at the features we'll go into more Depth in a moment but we need to put This saw up against something don't we We need to compare it to something and At least half of you are going to want To see it up against the Makita or the Festool because those two have been Around a long time and they're probably The two most common plunge saws on the Market today but there's also those Stupid people watching that will say There's no fear you can't put the Milwaukee up against the fist tool and The Makita because they're both 36 volt Tools and the Milwaukee is only 18 volt It's just not fair you can't compare two Tools with two different battery

Voltages you just can't do it it's not Possible so for once I'm going to play Kate those people And I'm going to put it up against the Metabo kt18 LTX 66 bl18 volt plunge saw To change the blade on the Metabo you Bring up your depth setting to the red Area here the picture of the blades Anywhere in that area is fine turn this Dial It pops out a small piece of plastic There place your tool on the edge of a Bench or something similar use your Thumb to unlock the plunge mechanism and Plunge the tool until it clicks into Place The blade is now locked the screw for Changing your blade is accessible the Trigger can't be pulled the Allen key For changing your blade is kept on the Side of the tool the plunge depth goes Down to 66 millimeters and there is a Fine adjustment screw near the handle Plunge the saw push this lever forward With your thumb releases the lock you Can then pull the trigger it is variable Speed 1 through to 12 one being 2250 RPM And 12 being 5000 the lever here is your Battery release it has a bevel knob at The back and the front The front bevel knob also has a button Push it in and you will drop to -1 Pop it back up It will pop out and go back to zero

Degrees the same system applies for the Maximum bevel Put your saw up to 45 it will Automatically stop push in the button You can now go past to 46 degrees go Back the button will pop back out back At 45. there are also levers front and Back full locking in a rip fence and the Base looks like this more on that later It has a dust Port that locks in lots of Different positions Can also completely remove it let's now Check the depth of cup between the two Tools and then we'll come back and talk A bit more about the features to make Things as Fair as possible I have a Bunch of new Milwaukee blades to use on Both tools I have two brand new Batteries to be using on these tools I Have the six amp hour high output Milwaukee and the Metabo 5.5 amp power Lithium HD batteries both are freshly Charged [Music] Why [Music] So the Milwaukee 59 millimeters as they State And the Metabo 66 millimeters as they State or just over two and a half inches And just over two and a quarter inches There is some wild weather going on Today thunder and lightning all over the Place so I'm gonna have to do some

Ripping indoors ripping better turn on Some more lights too it's getting dark Weather is measurable ripping you say Yes ripping with plunge saws You know me by now got to put these Things through their Paces eh then we'll Do some nicer Cuts after that I like how The Metabo tracks have holes pre-drilled In them so that you can screw them down To your work piece if your workpiece Allows And now we're gonna rip 15 millimeters Off the edge of this Timber this is Framing Timber it's 45 millimeters thick And I've got the saw set on about 48 There so the blade will just drop below Our Timber And we will cut a piece of that with Both the Metabo and the Milwaukee Foreign Test and ripping that framing Timber was Done with 24 tooth blades and there was No problem both saws did fine with them For their future tests we're gonna swap Out now into 40 tooth blades as well as The 24 tooth blade and the 40 tooth Blade we've also got a 48 here 52 and a Fiber cement blade these are some of the Other blades that you can get from Milwaukee I'm here at tradie Republic so I figured I would show you some of those Extra blades this is actually the blade That will come with your track saw if You buy it in this part of the world

Anyway I say that because in some Countries tool companies do different Things and sometimes you'll get Different size blades depending on where You live cutting the framing Timber on The track I could feel the Milwaukee had A bit more power they both did the job Fine I mean these things aren't really Designed for The Cutting framing Timber I don't have any sopping wet framing Timber to test I know people love seeing Saws put through really wet treated Timber but haven't got any at the moment And this isn't really what these things Are designed for anyway they're designed For cutting up sheet goods and doing Nice kitchen work and stuff they're not Designed for ripping long lengths of Sopping wet apto's or anything like that But as you saw they cut that dry framing Timber no problem at all and you may Have also noticed that I used the Metabo Track for both saws that's to show you That you can use the Milwaukee on the Metabo and you can also use the Metabo On the Milwaukee but not only that Because of its base design you can use The Milwaukee on the Makita and the Festool tracks but there is one caveat And that is I Did the cut first with the Metabo on That Metabo track And then when I came to do the Milwaukee Cut

I noticed some black rubber chips on the Track after I had made the cut Oh the width from the groove to the Blade on the Milwaukee is slightly less Than it is on the Metabo and therefore I Re-trimmed the Splinter guard so now the Splinter guard is about a half a Millimeter too short for the Metabo in Theory I mean you can still use this Track fine but you've now got that tiny Little gap on the edge of the Splinter Guard between the edge of this blade and The Splinter guard So you need to bear that in mind if you Are chopping and changing between saws Or tracks you may end up cutting the Splinter gut and when I use this on my Makita blade it's the other way around This is further out from the Splinter Guard so the Makita track and plunge saw A little bit narrower than both of these Because this one is way wider than the Makita track it runs along it fine but Your Splinter guard will end up about Five millimeters further away so this Sticks out five millimeters past the Guard roughly four or five mil it's Quite a lot I didn't actually measure it If you've got a brand new Makita track And you use this saw first and that's Fine because it will probably cut the Splinter guard to the right place for You but if you've been using Makita Stuff first then the Splinter gas not

Going to be much good for this Particular saw but the Metabo does have Other tricks up its sleeve when it comes To the tracks if we take a look at the Base it's got extra grooves than the Milwaukee one has so you can see here This groove this is the most common sort Of way of running in on the track and This is the way that Metabo does it the Way that hikoki does it Makita Hilti Festool so very common this way of doing Things but if you also notice there is a Thin Groove down here also now if you Watch my video on the mafel saw you will Have seen that that ran on a very small Groove and so this is for Bosch and Mafel who use a different track design While we're looking at the base let's Take a look at the adjustments here so This is to make sure you've got no play In either of your tracks as you can see Got an outer one here for this one and The inner one there it's all controlled By this one knob at the front you just Turn that back and forth it sort of Clicks quite nicely it's a very good System it is better than the system that Is on the Milwaukee so this is a very Cool base but there's one thing on here That I can't see that the Milwaukee and Makita nerve have and that is something To stop it from tilting when you have it Beveled over to say 45 degrees something To stop it from popping off the track

The Milwaukee has this here it has a Push button and a dial on the top you Turn it and it pops out past the edge of The base to slide underneath one of the Rails on your track doesn't look like it Sticks out very fast so I hope it grips All right it may have problems with Certain tracks maybe it wouldn't work on The Makita or something it depends I'll have to have a look so I guess we Should go do some bevel Cuts now I guess Before I do that though I should tell You about their little window at the Front on the Metabo and why there isn't One on the Milwaukee So these are designed so you can see the Edge of your blade and it's also like a Splinter guard so this moves up and down You can set it to different depths Depending on whether you're doing a Bevel cut or whether you're using the Track or not sort of thing so we've got It there if you're not using the track Pull it down again there's your track Depth this runs along the edge the Blades cutting just behind here has Helped stop the edge of your Timber from Splintering the other side is of course Protected by the track It is however quite awkward to get back In and I'm not sure how you meant to do It and all I've been doing is sort of Going like that which doesn't seem all That great to do but

I can't find another way of doing it a Bit of a poor design when we come to the Milwaukee you look at the instructions On any plant so it'll tell you not to Remove this but I was fiddling around With them before I used it and I forgot To put it back in for those cuts you Just saw so the Milwaukee one that's its Highest point you just pull down it Clicks into place and you can just click It back up if you want to remove it push This pin in at the top so the Milwaukee Also comes with this one which is more Of a splinter guard than the clear one Is or the clear one on the Metabo so Slide it in place this one has a thumb Screw so Do that up And now you can set that to absolutely Any angle you want because you've got The control of the screw this is Designed to be cut through just like the Splinter guard on your rail so once you Put in the blade you're going to use put This on here if you're doing some nice Fine work you'll then plunge this Through and cut so you get a perfect Edge on this piece of plastic here and That should help track side and Non-track side from splintering first up A bit of Break In The Milwaukee track Hope I don't stuff this up because it is A good looking track When it comes to doing full 45 degree

Bevels with track saws it pays to clamp Down your track these slot underneath Most guide rails and just give you that Extra grip this is a quick slide ratchet Style this is your classic f-clamps sort Of style with the screw Now with the Milwaukee and its lever for Holding it on the track here to stop it From tipping off All good and well But doesn't work too well here on the Makita track it's um it fits under there But it catches and grinds a bit see it's A bit she's a bit stiff it's not quite The right size maybe if you took a Little bit off the top of it or you ran A file through your guide rail You might be able to make that run a Little bit smoother so you might be able To get away with it on the Makita but The turbo no hope at all because they Don't have this extra piece on the side Here that the Makita and Milwaukee have So nothing there for you to grip onto is That going to be a problem with the Metabo Let's take a look [Music] So now we come to the Metabo and we have The problem I thought it would have It will not sit on a 45 Not even close if you do up the knob to Tighten it It'll hold it there but only if you do

It up so tight that the saw won't slide Oh but that's the Milwaukee track okay Then let's try it over here Oh Bloody camera got caught Exactly the same issue on the Metabo Track it is not going to be good for Doing 45 degree cuts All right [Music] Foreign [Applause] How much do each of these tools weigh With the factory blade on no battery 4.345 kgs and the Milwaukee comes in at 4.14 so 200 grams lighter for the Milwaukee you can actually feel it when You pick it up that does feel a little Bit lighter when it comes to the cut Quality on the melamine board here that I did which is MDF with a tough coating On it which might be called laminex or Something else where you are and it Chips quite easily but it did pretty Well both saws did good with the Milwaukee blade on most of the cuts but If I take a look at this one here We can see that this Edge pretty damn Rough the roughest cuts came from the Metabo Factory Blade the blade that came With this saw didn't seem anywhere near As good as the Milwaukee blades and the Treated pine framing that I cut came up Real nice beautiful cut nice and smooth

And that was just with the 24 tooth Blade that's the advantage of having a Track keeping everything dead straight So there's no wiggle in your hand as You're pushing your saw along manually Gives you those nice clean cuts when you Are doing 45s make sure you sort of hold The base down against your track Especially if you haven't got your track Clamped as your track is going to tip up And your saw is going to come away from The track and give you an angle that is Not the one you desired that goes for Both swords even though the Milwaukee Has the anti-tip thing that I showed you It is right at the back and so in the Shot that I put in the video you'll see If you look carefully some of you Probably already noticed the front of The saw was just tilting up a little bit Because I was doing it one-handed just Relying on that anti-tip feature but Basically you can't use a The Cutting It's good so that you can let go of the Saw whenever you want and it's not going To fall onto the ground like this one Will but for cutting still need that Downward pressure on the base and when You're doing a 45 that basically means You need to do it on the actual base Itself because the saw is tilted over so Far that the top handles don't work that Great when you're on a 45. I will do a Video in the future on the differences

Between like using a plunge saw and a Normal circular saw and which one you Should buy and which ones are best for You and yeah yeah Um but we'll leave it there for today Now looking at the tracks I like the Length of the Metabo track here the 1600 Long one gives you a bit more extra Overhang at the ends compared to a 1.4 Meter track like the Milwaukee and the Makita ones are however if you stuck two 1600s together in it with like 3.2 Meters which is a bit too big for doing Sheet Goods so it's it's kind of an Awkward size it's good by itself add Them together not that much good but you Can add a short one such as this 800 Millimeter long one but that brings you To 2.4 meters which is the exact length Of a sheet so once again a little odd Not that great but they do have nice Connectors Which slot in like so nice And easy and then you do up these cam Screws here Give them a tweak and you're locked in It's pretty good it's better than having To flip the track over like you do with The Makita and the Milwaukee ones a bit More solid although matabo I have an Issue because this one has a slightly Different profile This one has a sloped side and a grooved Side this one does not they're both Basically just sloped I think and this

Doesn't fit it will not go in there it's Too tight it's too narrow no matter Which way you put this upside down Wherever it will not go in this track so I don't know if this is an older track And they've changed the design so it's a Bit annoying because you get one of Those you think it's going to fit in Here and it doesn't now matabo also make A 2.5 meter track which I also think is A little bit of an odd size you know I Want a bit more than 50 mil hanging over Each end and they also do a 3.1 meter I Like the long tracks because it means You can put something like this this Behemoth of a Makita 270 millimeter blade you can put that on The track and get the good running that You need because you can't plunge this Well you can but you know it doesn't Have a plunge mechanism so you need to Come into the front of your piece of Timber so you want this on the track but Off the timber so you want that nice Run-in from the track and with that 1600 It gives you that option but yeah just Remember you can buy really long ones 3.1 meters and then cut it to exactly The length you want if you want so you Could get a 3.1 and then cut it down to Make two that are the right size for you Say two fifteen hundreds or a 2.7 and a 400 you know whatever you want you don't Have to stick with the sizes they give

You because the ends are not special or Anything they don't have anything Special about them you can just cut them Wherever you want and it's still a track And Tim from tradie Republic wants me to See if we can connect a Milwaukee track And a Makita track together with a set Of Makita joiners here and see whether This Milwaukee saw will run over both Tracks in a nice straight line no little Jutter bumps or anything like that but We're running out of time I'm afraid Timmy boy so I'll do that in another Video I'll stick it up on building stuff In the top Corner up here probably won't Be ready by the time this video is Finished but at some point it'll be up There or look down in the description And you'll see my channel builds and Stuff right let's take a bit more of an In-depth look at some of the features on These tools and what I do and do not Like about them I'm going to get a bit Brutal here both of these saws they cut Nice they do the job they've both got Plenty of Power Milwaukee is slightly More powerful but yeah they do the job But there's some things I don't like About them and I'm going to tell you What they are so this the Metabo has no Tilt stop we've established that this is Rubbish trying to get it back in we've Established that this handle the front Handle on the tool is rubbish it is held

On by one screw it's not molded with the Rest of the tool so it warbles from side To side and back to forward comes loose Very easily as does the hikoki so that's Just cheap and weak feeling and also It's tapered and it's made of a very Slippery plastic And the tool is weighted to the front so When you pick it up it goes like that And your hand just wants to slide Straight off just that's what my hand Does and that's where I go to pick it up When I'm just picking it up you know you Sort of you don't pick it up like that When you just want to move it from Somewhere you just grab that handle and If you don't grab it real tight if you Just casually grab it and you lift it And that goes like that your hand just Wants to slide straight off it's just a Bit crap whereas the Milwaukee one is TP Over molded and it is very grippy Spring as you see when I was just Pushing the plunge down the spring is Very strong on the Milwaukee perhaps a Little bit too strong so the Metabo is Nicer in that regard to plunge probably The Metabo definitely has a nicer handle Here so the front handle might be crap But this one much better much nicer Shape much more comfortable in the hand Much better for the plunge release at The top here it you can push it up with Your whole thumb and you know it feels

Right and the trigger is nice whereas The Milwaukee it's a it's a like a Square button and instead of sort of Sliding it up like you do with many Other saws like the one I just showed You you sort of push it in and so if you Sort of go like that which I I'm used to Doing of doing that if you go like that You sort of push your thumb into this Extraordinarily sharp edge on the Plastic here so yeah that's it's just And it's a bit more vertical not quite As comfortable as the matawa here's a Small one I don't like this vent being On the top and never like Vince being on The top of things you know it's just you Can see all the wires in the circuit Board in there and all the dust and Just going to go straight in the top of There very easily I don't like the Battery system but that's kind of a Completely separate issue with Metabo in General not this particular tool this One does not have a scoring function the Scoring function worked really nicely on The Milwaukee so it's a shame they Didn't bother putting that on the Metabo Scorecard test That's pretty damn good and the only Other thing that's sort of different to The Milwaukee really is this area here Where you lock your blade and I do not Like it in theory it seems cool but it's A bit too convoluted there's too many

Moving Parts there's too many things to Go wrong and this I think is a is the Weakest point of this saw and we'll see Push it up to the position you can do That like this or when it's locked that Will not go down but it will go up the Milwaukee is the same So when you lock that and you turn that Out and then you plunge the thing There's too many things to go wrong and They don't feel very strong and have Already had issues and that I think is a Bad feature the way they've done it the Milwaukee one is much simpler I know the Mafel and the Festool you know they have Nice fancy systems for getting the Blades off but a simple spindle lock With your finger is far more foolproof And that's what the Milwaukee's got and That's what makita's got and I prefer That as opposed to something too Convoluted I do like the mafel one Though where you push a button in the Side of the handle locks your blade you Then pull a lever Which releases the whole front of the Saw so that you can access the whole Blade it's a much better system than These ones where you have to half plunge It and lock it in position and then try And feed your blade in and out Especially on the Milwaukee because this One has got something we haven't spoken About that the Metabo also does not have

The Milwaukee you can plunge and lock Right down at the bottom of its range Past where you would normally do the Blade So that you can do the riving knife so You've got a screw in there so you can Adjust the riving knife so the driving Knife not on the Metabo only on the Milwaukee so I haven't had any problems With that yet I can see it's got a Little bit of play in it but I haven't Had it catch or anything so so far so Good I'm not a huge fan of roving knives I know yeah it's a safety issue yada Yada but they can cause other problems And they can cause the opposite of Safety issues so some swords have them Some don't some people love them some People hate them I'm not going to take It off unless it causes me a problem so If you like driving knives all in the Milwaukee's got another one up over the Metabo the dust Port is better on the Metabo for one reason alone really in my Opinion well it kind of locks in nicely On different angles a little bit better Than the Milwaukee which is just tight All the way around But this one I can hook up to a dust Extractor the Milwaukee on the other Hand has an odd sized Port which none of The eight fittings I had went over Couldn't get one of these inside like You can on the Metabo nothing went over

The top of it either so a couple of Pieces of duct tape just to make that a Bit bigger and then I was able to put That one on That slots on quite nicely now but this Would normally require see it's got that Groove there a special fitting from Milwaukee that Clips on sort of locks in Place but I don't have one of those and It's annoying having to buy that 30 Thing just to clip on here when I have So many other attachments from other Vacuums that fit on everything else but Don't fit on this now if you're in the US you're going what mine doesn't look Anything like that in the US I've Noticed this is just smooth doesn't have The lock in one and this style of Attachment will go straight inside So I don't know why they decided to do It different in this part of the world Like I said tool companies do different Things in different parts of the world For one reason or another some of them I Can get some of them I don't get now a Couple of other things that Milwaukee's Got over the matabo the Splinter guard Area here at the front much better on The Milwaukee than it is on the Metabo The Milwaukee has the 22 and a half Detent set there on the front Metabo Doesn't have that the Milwaukee feels Quicker and more powerful than the Metabo and when it comes to changing

Blades you know how the tool storage is Basically crap on most tools they have a Space on board tool storage and it's got An allen key in it you stick it inside Of your saw you know and then a week Later when you want to change the blade You go to get it and it's gone who knows Where in the mud somewhere on site Who would know their rattle out Disappear that's that well I don't think You'll have the problem with this one Because boy oh boy is it's stuck in well It is the tightest mounted onboard tool Storage I have ever experienced it's Also right by your hand so you've got Your hand basically over it a lot of the Time so it starts coming out you're Going to notice it pretty quick you'll See it or you'll feel it so you're very Unlikely to lose that as long as you Keep it on the tool of course than you Would with the Metabo or any other saw Pretty much and one more thing to Mention about the Milwaukee How does it Go with a 12 amp hour battery can you See any problems here Um yeah I don't know where you where Your hands supposed to go Um Yeah with a 12 amp hour battery she is Rather awkward the front handle is not Usable to wrap your hand around you can Still sort of push down on it or push Down on the battery and just forget the

Handle put your palm on this area and Your fingertips over the top like so But yeah the battery placement on the Milwaukee Is not the greatest I Know It's Tricky with a plunge saw to Know where to put the batteries But yeah with the big batteries even the 6 amp how high output I was using is a Bit close sticks out a long way up here So yeah they could have made that a Little bit more elegant and out of the Way would have been nice but I do admit There's not a lot of places you could Put it especially a battery that size This has the um the locks on it for your Rip fence that the Milwaukee doesn't Have it's got the holes to screw it in And everything but they don't actually Give you the thumb screws with it okay So I think that's now roughly it there's So many things to talk about with plunge Saws it could this video could be three Times as long as we ran into the depth Of how nice the cuts are and setting all The Splinter guards and everything Perfectly and there's lots of things you Can talk about with these things and Lots of cuts you can do and it's uh yeah They're they take a long time to video But that is the Metabo kt18 LTX 66bl It's a bit of a mouthful and the Milwaukee M18 FPS 55 oh I have and told You the depth of cut on a 45 you're

Going to want to know that aren't you so The Metabo is 43 millimeters on a 45 so Just a couple of millimeters short of Being able to do framing timber in this Part of the world but that's still a lot Better than the Milwaukee which you're Looking at like about 36 millimeters on A 45 so no good for framington but on 45 Degrees that's for downshore but as I Said earlier not really designed for Framington but these are for Sheet Goods Did I tell you about the Dust extraction I found the Milwaukee probably slightly Better without these in place the Metabo Certainly fired out a lot more rubbish a Lot of 45 that's fired out a lot more Than the Milwaukee but when they're all Set perfectly they're pretty close but I Think the Milwaukee just slightly better Don't bother with the dust bags for both Of them they just fill up way too fast Ideally with the stuff you're probably Cutting and with the way these run and With the way they're so close to you and You it's a good chance you're indoors With these tools as well you want dust Extraction you want a vac hooked up to Them and yeah makes your life much nicer Right are we done have I run out of Things to say I know there'll be Something that I've forgotten but I know You'll tell me what that was down in the Comments so which one would you go for The green one or the red one I'll tell

You which one I'd go for if I had to Choose only one if I was only gonna keep One of these tools it would be the red One for sure It just I just preferred using it and I Prefer the feature designs on this one Over this one So yeah I don't normally say which one I Prefer but hey That's the one But if you are interested in the green One and you're interested in seeing it Up against its other green brother the High koki or if you're in the states the Metabo HPT matabo versus Metabo HPT Aren't they the same thing well Subscribe and in a few days time you can Take a look at that video and see what Is the same and what is different Between these two tools these two Companies these two companies these one Company well Make sure you subscribe and I'll see you Back in a couple of days for that video Until then thanks for watching right to The end and I'll see you on another Video soon be it this one or one of the Other ones subscribe and you'll get them All cheers guys [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] Oh yeah

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